building a cleveland class cruiser

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  1. kal skirata

    kal skirata New Member

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    im am building a cleveland class cruiser,the brooklyn, i need some plans. blueprints would be awesome. and i need some advice on how i should do it. that would be great...

    thanks..:)
     
  2. Anachronus

    Anachronus Well-Known Member

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    A good place to start -

    http://www.battlersconnection.com/html/Cleveland.htm

    They have all you should need and have excellent service.
     
  3. crzyhawk

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    Before you get started, the Brooklyn was a Brooklyn class light cruiser. They used a very similar hull, (same hull is legal for what we do), but are far different. They major difference is, the Brooklyn class carried 15 152mm guns (6in)in 5 triple turrets, 3 forward of the superstructure, 2 aft of the superstructure. Secondary armament was 8 127mm (5in) guns in single turrets. Stepsisters in the St Louis class carried 8 127mm in 4 twin turrets.

    The Cleveland class carried only 12 152mm (6in) in 4 triple turrets, arranged two forward, two aft. Secondary armament was twelve 127mm in six twin turrets. Both have dfferent superstructures.

    Are you building for biggun or small gun? The two different formats have different building procedures, so construction will be different.
     
  4. kal skirata

    kal skirata New Member

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    im building for big gun...
     
  5. kal skirata

    kal skirata New Member

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    and what is the best beginner ship for me to build.. i know the cruiser is a great fighting ship but it is a little out of my budget range.. i need a ship the can be built for under $200 and is a good beginner ship.. i have heard that transport/ cargo ships are good beginners.......


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  6. kal skirata

    kal skirata New Member

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    can a liberty class cargo ship have a gun on it?
     
  7. BoomerBoy17

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    yea, they did. if ur shooting for under $200, a convoy ship is the only thing u can do, and that might even be a stretch. u might have to buy a used convoy ship and fix it up a little
     
  8. kal skirata

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    yea i would like to buy a ship for my first ship to get a feel for how the ship is put togetther and hoow it works.....does enybody have a ship that is for salee and is in good shape?
     
  9. crzyhawk

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    For biggun a cleveland is a bad choice. She doesn't carry torpedoes, and in Biggun torpedoes are what makes a cruiser dangerous. Torpedo cruisers are also far most cost effecient then gun cruisers IIRC.

    I'd look at a big, fast cruisers if I were you. Something like the big japanese cruisers (Mogami, Tone, Takao, Myoko) or some of the big italian cruisers such as the Trento or Bolzano.

    The bottom line is look for speed and torpedoes. Cross off anything that's less then 35 knots and anything that doesnt have torpedoes and start from there.
     
  10. BoomerBoy17

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    well, he said that there is a $200 limit, so i think a convoy ship is the way to go, but if he is going to go to combat ship, ur right about the cruisers
     
  11. crzyhawk

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    *shrug* I'd run an unarmed 36 knot cruiser before I ran a 10 knot unarmed tramp steamer. the Japanese used cruisers and destroyers as supply ships all the time, and even converted a couple of light cruisers to fast transports (Oi and Kitakami, the infamous "torpedo cruisers of the IJN), so I can't imagine someone saying it's not legal for transport runs.
     
  12. kal skirata

    kal skirata New Member

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    ok.... that helps
     
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    Ben,

    have you found a local club to join and get some insite? That would be the first step I think. Many guys will be happy to give you advice and help get you into a boat. At events, there are usually extra boats that you can run around the pond to partctipate.

    And Hawk was right, the Cleveland class isn't a good choice for big gun. It is great for fast guns, I have played both formats, but as mentioned they didn't have torpedoes.

    And a budget of $200.00 is pretty tight as many fiberglass hulls go for over $100 plus dollars. Then you have the components, servos, wiring, guns, balsa sheeting, superstructure material, switches, etc to consider.

    So in my personal opinion, find a club that you can learn from and maybe pick up a used boat to restore. Learn as much as you can and decide how to spend your money wisely. It will make it more fun and you won't get frustrated and lose interest.

    good luck whatever you decide,

    Steve
     
  15. kal skirata

    kal skirata New Member

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    thanks that really helps..
     
  16. sarges_heroes2003

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    You are going to scratch build a ship and you are starting off with the Cleveland class? that is a crappy ship compared to the other class 3's. why not pick a Steped deck cruiser instead? Tuggie has free plans for some steped deck heavies!