First ship

Discussion in 'Warship Builds' started by BronxFireGuy, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. BronxFireGuy

    BronxFireGuy New Member

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    So I've been reading up and looking around, and I think I'd like to build a Des Moines class heavy cruiser. Anyone have experience/pics with this ship?
     
  2. crzyhawk

    crzyhawk Well-Known Member

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    Ive currently got one, I love it in treaty. I'd think it's solid in the MWC, and if the IRCWCC passes rules allowing cruisers more speed (I think this is under discussion, not sure) it would be a solid ship there too.

    As for big gun, I can't say. My gut tells me it would be terrible.
     
  3. Gascan

    Gascan Active Member

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    Crazy got fast gun covered pretty well.

    In big gun, it is a miniature battleship. In my opinion, it's guns are too small to be useful for sinking other battleships, it's armor is too thin to stand and fight for long, and it's too slow to escape from fast battleships. That said, there's a guy in Texas who uses one for convoy escort and raiding and apparently does OK.
     
  4. BoomerBoy17

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    Are you looking at the Battlers connection hull? good luck, we could use some more cruisers
     
  5. BronxFireGuy

    BronxFireGuy New Member

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    I think the closest clubs to me are fast gun and treaty, so hopefully it should be fine. Yeah the BC hull was the one I was eyeing.

    Crzyhawk do you have any pics of her if you dont mind my asking?
     
  6. crzyhawk

    crzyhawk Well-Known Member

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    Here's a thread with a picture of the ship I bought. I don't usually take many pictures myself, but if I think about it tonight I'll try to take some.

    http://www.rcnavalcombat.com/rcnavalcombat/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1054
     
  7. Ragresen

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    The BC hull is a good hull. I live the one I built as it was a good first ship. The Problem I have with it is how one must use her in MWC rules. She is fast in a strait line, but very bad on turning. This makes getting shots off easy when you use sterns only like I did. The Des Moines is a snipeing ship more than anything. You shoot at distance and take a few shots when you get them. If you are after a ship that is a bit more of a get in and fight ship I would recommend looking into the ship that David Rainer has that is an Austrian WW1 cruiser. Decent speed and you can do a tripple bow. It turns really well and sits low in the water so you can get in to the furball. In the end you are the one who has to decide what you want and I just gave you my own opinions from running my Des Moines for the last year. Do not get me wrong I love the ship, but I am more of a Run and Gun fighter so I need a ship with bow guns and I want into the Furball a bit more. So I have been working on a Konig Class for myself.
     
  8. crzyhawk

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    Hmm that's interesting, I am actually pretty happy with the turning on my Salem. For Treaty I am set up with dual sterns and a single bow chaser. If I still battled fast gun it would have stayed triple sterns.
     
  9. CURT

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    In CWC-X the Des Moines packs a wallop for a fast gun heavy cruiser with 23 sec speed and a 5 unit allocation due to it's greater than 20,000 Full Load Displacement. Cruisers
    >20,000 tons in this range are allocated 5 units so you have a lot more to play with and you can take it to the Big fast or slow Battleships instead of just being outplayed just becuase they can on their size.

    Adm Stokomoto
     
  10. djranier

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    Well you don't see many ships turning like my PE does. John has not seen it since I added my latest mods to it. John just image what 75% better than before looks like and you will be close. His ship actually for a normal ship turned quite well, but when he tried to come by my PE, any ship looks like it does not turn well.

    Also on the VU, it is only 499 ft with a 90 ft beam, with twin dual rudders, she was born to turn. About the only other class 4 or above if properly set up able to better her would be the Wesfalen which is 20 ft shorter on a 89 ft beam. But with no elevated turrets, bow guns would not be as effective.
     
  11. CURT

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    Agreed the PE is extremely tight turning. That ship is very deadly in a furball. I can't wait to get mine.
     
  12. BoomerBoy17

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    PE, is that the Viribitus Unitus ship or the Heavy cruiser?
     
  13. crzyhawk

    crzyhawk Well-Known Member

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    the VU version. the CA is nearly as long as the Des Moines.
     
  14. BoomerBoy17

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    i was going to say.......