HMS Tiger - MWC Ruleset

Discussion in 'Warship Builds' started by jpmarino, Apr 7, 2010.

  1. jpmarino

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    After a few years with my free time spent mostly working on my new house, I've decided to get back into the swing of things and begin construction of a warship. I had quite a few model ships underway when last I worked on such things and hence had a real dilemma deciding which would suit me best. After much consideration, I decided to begin work on a BC Lion hull I had lying around. However, during the planning stage, I decided it would be best to modify said hull into an HMS Tiger.
    Before I begin, I must apologize to the model warship fanatics. I'm certain this project will proceed slowly (especially at first) and it probably won't be very pretty. However, in the end, I hope to have a completed and functional warship.

    -John


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    2010-04-01: During the course of this project, a Battlers Connection Lion hull will be modified to create an HMS Tiger. The Lion hull sits atop a set of Taubman HMS Tiger plans.



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    2010-04-03: A rainy day in Chicagoland... too wet to do any serious work in the garden. Hence, I decided to begin work on the Tiger. First, I marked the location of the casement deck using 1/8" masking tape. Then, I removed excess material from the hull using a Dremel tool. After looking at the photo, however, I probably should have spent the time cleaning the garage.
     
  2. GregMcFadden

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    lookin good.
     
  3. Anachronus

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    A very interesting project.
     
  4. Miller7D

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    Looks like you're off to a good start.
     
  5. Tugboat

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    Looking forward to this one :) Nice to see original work :)
     
  6. moose421

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    Get her done. Looking good so far. Heck when you get her done bring her up to the Port Polar Beat battles. Our local tiger captain is working on his Salad Shooter so it leaves no tiger.

    As for slow build, I have one of those to. I have not updated my build for quite a while. At least I have worked on her and should have it ready for this Sundays battle.

    Kim
     
  7. djranier

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    I even see what looks like a scratch built hull in one pile of stuff?
     
  8. Tugboat

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    Good eyes, David... wonder what it is?
     
  9. Renodemona

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    Ohhhh it looks like it has a bulge and a casemate deck! Could it be the first symptoms of PAGODA POWER!?
     
  10. jpmarino

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    Good eyes! The scratch built hull in the background to the right is the remnants of an HIJMS Hyuga I started in 2007. In the background to the left we have the beginning of an HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Dreadnought (both from 2008).
     
  11. jpmarino

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    Actually, I have a few servo related questions...
    I was looking through my cache of warship goodies last night and found a brand new Tower Hobbies TS-59 servo (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...45&P=7). Below are the specs:
    SPECS: Speed: .18 sec @ 60° (4.8V) .14 sec @ 60° (6V)
    Output Torque: 61 oz-in (4.8V) 77 oz-in (6V)
    Weight: 1.2oz (34g)
    Dimensions: 1.7"L x .9"W x 1"H (43 x 23 x 25mm)
    Would this work as a rudder servo?
    I also found 2 Tower Hobbies TS-80 servos (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...94&P=0) but I'm not certain they would fit in the stern section of this particular ship. However, I'm wondering if they may do a decent job with cannon rotation (perhaps with a servo extender)?
    SPECS: 4.8V (4 cells) 6.0V (5 cells)
    Torque: 275 oz-in (19.8 kg-cm) 343 oz-in (24.7 kg-cm)
    Speed: 0.19 sec/60° 0.14 sec/60°
    Current Drain: Idle: 8mA
    Running w/No Load: 700mA
    Signal Pulse: Positive Pulse Control 1520us Neutral
    Weight: 5.4oz (153g)
    Length: 2.6" (66mm)
    Width: 1.2" (30mm)
    Height: 2.3" (58mm)
     
  12. Renodemona

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    I don't suppose you'd be interested in having that Hyuga find a new home on the West coast? However I don't know enough about servos to tell you if they're strong enough. I use the standard tamiya waterproof ones now, haven't had an issue in a while.
     
  13. Tugboat

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    The TS-59 is plenty of torque for a Tiger's rudders. I ran a plain Futaba 'standard' servo that's similar to the TS-59 in my Lion with no trouble. That was on 4.8V. I have taken to running 4 AA batteries to power the receiver and servos, giving 6V. One set lasts all weekend :) (my old rcvr battery died and AAs are a lot cheaper, even with the holder).

    For rotates, I will leave that to people with more experience with rotates.
     
  14. mike5334

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    I've used the TS-59s in the Richelieu to good effect. The Richy requires low profile servos. Heh
     
  15. jpmarino

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    Excellent. Thanks all. It sounds like I have my rudder servo.
     
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    I was never very happy with the way she turned out. My woodworking skills really [expletive deleted]. Japanese ships of that era had very cool lines and rounded deck edges in the stern section (not certain if I can even explain it). I tried to duplicate these (mostly with a hand sander) but was never satisfied with their symmetry down the hull. I also wasn't very happy with the way her bow ribs turned out (and she is currently missing a few).
    I guess I'm trying to say that it's probably not worth the cost to ship it or even fix it up. Having said that, if you're ever in the area or we're at the same battle, I'll bring her along and you can have her.
     
  17. Tugboat

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    Brandon, if you refit the Hyuga, that'd give me reason to finish the Ise BBCV that is half done in my shop :) They'd look good together at Nats 2011 :)
     
  18. Renodemona

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    Oh contrare, mon frare! I only need a Hyuga to complete my pagoda tower pyramid scheme. (Kongo, Fuso, Huga, Nagato) However I do have too many projects. (Emden is taking up my time now that I found some...interesting....things....inside Nagato. Where abouts are you? Chicago if I remember?
     
  19. Tugboat

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    I'm in Georgia... I have a half-done Ise hull sitting on a shelf that I want to finish at some point... they'd look good on the water together.
     
  20. jpmarino

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    I'm not certain if you were talking to myself or Tugboat...
    I live in Addison, IL (about 35 miles west of downtown Chicago). I snapped a few photos of the Hyuga this morning so you can decide if she is worth putting any time/effort into fixing.
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    It looks like the bow is a bit crooked but it could be due to the missing/loose ribs. Also, the holes visible on the outer deck are where I planned to install railings.
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    The missing rib. (I originally thought there were several but the others are only loose).
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    A view from underneath the casement deck. Several of these ribs are loose. Also, part of the small strips securing the ribs may have to be cut away to be MWC legal.
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    A crooked rib (probably the worst/most obvious).