Here is a list of ships with the "MWCI" deck layouts in color. This list will grow as more are completed and verified to be correct. Click on the links below each pic for full size. This is being tested to see if folks like it or not. If so, maybe we can get this stickied and also ghosted into a couple of places. If you would like to see a ship added, just reply here. Any Casements that are located either on top of the Casement Deck (Blue Line) or directly underneath the 1/4" Weather Deck (Green Line) must have the flat areas made penatrable IAW MWCI Contruction Rules. Austria Viribus Unitis Class Click here for full size Germany Baden Class Click here for full size Moltke Class Disclaimer: This drawing has not been verified. Click here for full size Japan Nagato Class Click here for full size
Very nice, I'm surprised images like these haven't been used/made before. (they might be on one organisations website, but im only on this one, so i wouldnt know.) Im sure I will be looking back on these images when i get round to picking a ship. Daemon
Excellent markup on the larger drawings. The only thing I disagree with is the casemate deck and 1/4" deck actually should stop 1 gun forward from where they do in the drawing. On the Nagato the bulge doesn't cover the gunwale up on the back two sets of casemate guns so the area between them is inset more than 1/2" from the gunwale. This is the area just aft of the wierd sloping step down area on the bulge which isn't represented in this particular line drawing. And on the Baden I'm not sure exactly where the 1/2" inset from the gunwale would start, but it looks to me like everything aft of the second to last casemate gun should be hard area. Great idea to improve the drawings, Mr. Potato I'm sure they will be of use and probably be incorporated into the rulesets at some point in the future. Ron Hunt
The 3/8" can move up a little in the stern and some of the front is 1/2" back and solid. But the deck does not change to 3/8". This applies to Nagato, and any other ship too. I'm just don't have time to color.
Moltke/Goben/Yavuz is pretty easy. On the Strike hull the center casements are not modeled. You have to cut your hull back to install them. Or go without them and have more penitrible area. The little armor belt in the bow is not modeled either, but it's so small on the real ship in our scale I don't think it would be more than a small bump. Still if you want to add the stringer there should be a bump in the balsa. On my Moltke I put the casements in but left the belt out. Backing it with plywood would take up space I need for my bottle and regulator. Unlike the Baden the casements kind of sit inside the hull a 1/8" overhang with 1/8" below the cupola. Opps that big line for the 3/8" weather deck should have been blue.
Nope, on Moltke the green area on your photo can be red. You can't go over 1/2" of stringers/decks in one verticle plain. The 3/8" weather deck and 1/8" casement deck get you to 1/2". More solid area for you.
Added the Viribus Unitis this morning. Austria Viribus Unitis Class Disclaimer: This Drawing has not been verified. Click here for full size
Because this thread is stickied for the specific topic of deck layouts under the current rules, it would be best if the topic stayed as such, and not become a discussion of the merits of the rules or alternative rule proposals. I have moved the posts discussing rule alternatives here.
How would the decks be done on this Provencien? Click here for larger photo! Click here for larger photo! Click here for larger photo! Click here for larger photo!
Spuds, since those guns are clearly within 1/2" of the hull side, obviously the bulkhead behind them must be made penetrable as part of the "hull".
This one is harder than that... The guns are not INSET into the hull area in question. They are on top of it! and the hull area behind them is well over a inch from the guns... This is a very unique ship because the midship deck has a "wall" coming up from the hull not a stantion and cable wire railing... I would say the deck those guns are on would be the midship weatherdeck, not a casement deck. Heck the ship doesn't have casement guns...
Can anyone confirm that the Konig and Kaiser classes are affected in the same manner as the Bayern class?
Well that depends... I don't have a set of prints, the best I can do is the below. If the casements go back 1/2" past the edge of the deck at the yellow line, then the deck drops below the casements and they are solid. If the casements are less than 1/2" then they are open and the level below them is 1/8". The orange line is where the deck would drop in this case. There is an armor belt on this ship. Note that the belt is the outer line in the top down view. You have to take the 1/2" from the inner line, the edge of the hull. Looking at the photos on the BC site, http://www.battlersconnection.com/html/konig.html it's hard to tell too. The first ship looks like they are more than 1/2" back. The 2nd one is tipped too much to see.
